Azeri Turks are nationals of Iran. But are Azeri Turks who rule Iran today are natives of Iran?
The debate about who is Iranian is not very familiar to people from other countries and they do not really understand what is debated. Therefore I am going to place it in an American context so they understand what we are talking about. Azeri Turks are Iranian nationals. But who is really Iranian with Iranian culture and traditions? This is what this debate is about.
Assume Mexicans take over Washington D.C. and the US government. On assuming power in US, Mexicans order all TV stations to stop showing the pictures of European American and only pictures of Mexcians will be shown on TV.
Mexicans tell Americans that they are the real Americans and have lived in US for thousands of years!!!!! Because of a previous foreign invasion by Mongols 1000 years earlier Mexicans have changed their language to Spanish but they are genuine Americans and nobody can tell the difference between a Mexican and an European American.
Also Mexicans try to force European Americans to move to Washington DC and the population of Washington DC goes from half a million to 50 million people. The reason is Mexicans control only Washington DC and have no control over other areas in US.
Mexicans tell Americans that European American do not exist in US and they are only a myth and we are all Gringos and we have the same culture and forget about your past ethnic origin. We are all mixed. The reason that Mexicans look different from European Americans is because of invasion by Arabs 1000 years earlier where Americans got mixed with Arabs.
Also Mexicans produce a lot of DNA and Genetic charts proving that they are Scandinavians.
Mexicans claim that "the real mexicans look like mongols" therefore "Mexicans are not really Mexicans but they are European-Americans". Mexicans tell all their Mexican citizens to state "Caucasian Ethnicity" and never mention "Mexican" on the internet when they are asked about their ethnicity. "Caucasian" is not really an ethnicity but is used by American Tax authorities to know how many rich oil arab sheiks live in US!!!!
To confuse people totally, Mexicans inter-change the term Mexican with European-American. They order all TV stations to call Mexicans for European Americans and call European-Americans for Mexicans. The Mexican president of US is called a European American. And the former European-American Queen of US who was appointed by the British is called a Mexican.
Cuba which is a Mexican colony to US and is run by Mexicans goes even further and shows the pictures of Russians and claims they are the real Mexicans!!!!
Mexicans even kidnap some mongols from Mongolia and bring them to US and force them to speak Spanish language. Mexicans show these mongols on TV and tell the Americans that these are the mongols who forced Mexicans to speak spanish. So it is not Mexicans fault that they speak Spanish but it is the mongols fault. Americans do not know that Mongols do not speak even a word of spanish and their language is completely different from Spanish.
Also Mexicans re-write American History and prove that George Washington and Abraham Lincoln were all Mexicans.
Also Mexicans import a lot of Mexicans from Mexico and send them to other states and try to mix up Mexicans with Native Americans.
Anybody objects to what Mexicans are doing, will be called "skin heads" and "KKK" and "White-Superamacist" and accused of racial profiling.
Assume Canada is a hispanic country. Canada knows these people are really Mexicans and not European-Americans.. Everytime Canada talks about Mexicans are our hispanic brothers, Mexicans accuse Canada of "Grey Wolves Pan-Canadian expansionism" and Canada is trying to promote "separatism" in US and tell Canadians to buzz off as Mexicans are European-Americans and have nothing to do with Canadians.
I let you imagine how US would look like under these conditions!!!!!! And this is the situation in Iran today with Azeri turks ruling Iran.
The debate about who is Iranian is not very familiar to people from other countries and they do not really understand what is debated. Therefore I am going to place it in an American context so they understand what we are talking about. Azeri Turks are Iranian nationals. But who is really Iranian with Iranian culture and traditions? This is what this debate is about.
Assume Mexicans take over Washington D.C. and the US government. On assuming power in US, Mexicans order all TV stations to stop showing the pictures of European American and only pictures of Mexcians will be shown on TV.
Mexicans tell Americans that they are the real Americans and have lived in US for thousands of years!!!!! Because of a previous foreign invasion by Mongols 1000 years earlier Mexicans have changed their language to Spanish but they are genuine Americans and nobody can tell the difference between a Mexican and an European American.
Also Mexicans try to force European Americans to move to Washington DC and the population of Washington DC goes from half a million to 50 million people. The reason is Mexicans control only Washington DC and have no control over other areas in US.
Mexicans tell Americans that European American do not exist in US and they are only a myth and we are all Gringos and we have the same culture and forget about your past ethnic origin. We are all mixed. The reason that Mexicans look different from European Americans is because of invasion by Arabs 1000 years earlier where Americans got mixed with Arabs.
Also Mexicans produce a lot of DNA and Genetic charts proving that they are Scandinavians.
Mexicans claim that "the real mexicans look like mongols" therefore "Mexicans are not really Mexicans but they are European-Americans". Mexicans tell all their Mexican citizens to state "Caucasian Ethnicity" and never mention "Mexican" on the internet when they are asked about their ethnicity. "Caucasian" is not really an ethnicity but is used by American Tax authorities to know how many rich oil arab sheiks live in US!!!!
To confuse people totally, Mexicans inter-change the term Mexican with European-American. They order all TV stations to call Mexicans for European Americans and call European-Americans for Mexicans. The Mexican president of US is called a European American. And the former European-American Queen of US who was appointed by the British is called a Mexican.
Cuba which is a Mexican colony to US and is run by Mexicans goes even further and shows the pictures of Russians and claims they are the real Mexicans!!!!
Mexicans even kidnap some mongols from Mongolia and bring them to US and force them to speak Spanish language. Mexicans show these mongols on TV and tell the Americans that these are the mongols who forced Mexicans to speak spanish. So it is not Mexicans fault that they speak Spanish but it is the mongols fault. Americans do not know that Mongols do not speak even a word of spanish and their language is completely different from Spanish.
Also Mexicans re-write American History and prove that George Washington and Abraham Lincoln were all Mexicans.
Also Mexicans import a lot of Mexicans from Mexico and send them to other states and try to mix up Mexicans with Native Americans.
Anybody objects to what Mexicans are doing, will be called "skin heads" and "KKK" and "White-Superamacist" and accused of racial profiling.
Assume Canada is a hispanic country. Canada knows these people are really Mexicans and not European-Americans.. Everytime Canada talks about Mexicans are our hispanic brothers, Mexicans accuse Canada of "Grey Wolves Pan-Canadian expansionism" and Canada is trying to promote "separatism" in US and tell Canadians to buzz off as Mexicans are European-Americans and have nothing to do with Canadians.
I let you imagine how US would look like under these conditions!!!!!! And this is the situation in Iran today with Azeri turks ruling Iran.
8 comments:
although i liked how you decided to use an alternative example to demonstrate your point (Mexicans/Americans), i thought your post and cartoon was quite racist, superficial and very stereotypical.
OK! Mexicans are brothers of azeri TORKIKHAR. Iran for poore Aryans!
This is stupid because Mexicans are descendants of the natives and there empire compared with the European ones but they suffered disease and superstition. They went through the pox epidemic and the Spanish took advantage of that. They new math, astronomy, medicine, architecture, and warfare. They had tough luck and mistakes. The Spanish made alliances with other empires and took over. They died of disease and the few that survived were killed or enslaved. Now they are multiplying again but only have a desire to rebuild and not kill each other and others for differences like they do on the other side of the world because the Aryan theory is a racist theory and the fact is that Persians or whatever descended from those south of Iran and they came from Africa. Orientals and Europeans Branched of from what is now Persian and around the Caspian Sea. Some genes became dominant and they changed through isolation. Asian look and European look. After that, you had war, rises and falls of empires mixing of people and etc. DNA proves that and the Aryan race theory is a fraud. Persians are mixed people. Russians invaded, Arabs invaded, British invaded, Turks invaded. Any blond, dark, or unibrowed son of a gun could be descendant of any of them invaders. Pure race my ass. That doesn't exist in reality. I'm mixed of every race and behold. I look like the typical race of a Persian to claim to be. I am not Persian. I am man.
I have to say your example is quite unfortunate. First of all, remember that what you portray in your example as happening to the "real" Americans, did in fact happen, to the Native Americans, at the hands of your "real" Americans. Secondly, you fail to recognize that within "Mexican", there's is a blend and variety of "races". Having said, that, you do try very hard to help us understand Iran, and despite the flaws and biases of your illustration, one can learn quite a bit from what you're trying to say.
Having said that, one must pick sides, and I choose the U.S.A. and defend her sovereignty. But don't use the U.S.A. or "real American" in reference to racial purity or oneness.
I hope that things change for the better in Iran.
I really don't get you. I started off empathising with you but then you launch an unwarranted attack on the Mexican people (why did you drag them into it?). Your analogy is based on ignorance and is in fact opposite to what the way things are. The Mexicans are the indigenous people of America (the red indians are all but wiped out).
My mother's family is Afghan. My cousins have light brown hair and green eyes. My dad however is Pakistani. Someone like you would put me in a different class to my own cousins. I am not disputing that they are beautiful people - because they in fact are very beautiful. I dont know or care if they are European either because I am bound to them by more than just blood. What I will say is that in their recent history they were obliterated first by the Russians and then by the Americans. I really dont think the majority of them identify with the Europeans that keep bombing them. Pakistan is not a great country and has a lot of problems but they dont go around killing Afghans. If anything they helped them during both those wars. I would like to see the Afghans preserve their culture as they are great hard working and honest people - some of the most trustworthy Ive met. I do consider myself as one of them regardless of what you say. They are a fiercely tribal people and have maintained their identity for centuries and the only reason there has been so much mixing over the last few decades is because decent Afghans have had to migrate to countries like Iran and Pakistan for fear of being bombed by the Europeans. You on the other hand have run off to a European country got mixed up with the white supremacists view of the world and now want the Afghans to fight against the very people that help them. Afghans can do what they like and mix with whom they choose. Above all they are Muslims. What is wrong with Mongoloid Afghans? - there's quite a lot of them. Genghis Khan was the greatest leader that has ever existed - I dont see anything to be ashamed of. You need to understand that that part of the world is not Europe. People who dont like it should not be there.
I really don't get you. I started off empathising with you but then you launch an unwarranted attack on the Mexican people (why did you drag them into it?). Your analogy is based on ignorance and is in fact opposite to what the way things are. The Mexicans are the indigenous people of America (the red indians are all but wiped out).
My mother's family is Afghan. My cousins have light brown hair and green eyes. My dad however is Pakistani. Someone like you would put me in a different class to my own cousins. I am not disputing that they are beautiful people - because they in fact are very beautiful. I dont know or care if they are European either because I am bound to them by more than just blood. What I will say is that in their recent history they were obliterated first by the Russians and then by the Americans. I really dont think the majority of them identify with the Europeans that keep bombing them. Pakistan is not a great country and has a lot of problems but they dont go around killing Afghans. If anything they helped them during both those wars. I would like to see the Afghans preserve their culture as they are great hard working and honest people - some of the most trustworthy Ive met. I do consider myself as one of them regardless of what you say. They are a fiercely tribal people and have maintained their identity for centuries and the only reason there has been so much mixing over the last few decades is because decent Afghans have had to migrate to countries like Iran and Pakistan for fear of being bombed by the Europeans. You on the other hand have run off to a European country got mixed up with the white supremacists view of the world and now want the Afghans to fight against the very people that help them. Afghans can do what they like and mix with whom they choose. Above all they are Muslims. What is wrong with Mongoloid Afghans? - there's quite a lot of them. Genghis Khan was the greatest leader that has ever existed - I dont see anything to be ashamed of. You need to understand that that part of the world is not Europe. People who dont like it should not be there.
Well... actually most mexicans are at least part descendant of the true, original native americans (or should I say Abya Yala- original name of this May God forgive your ignorant, pretentious racism.
First of all, you're completely delusional. You need a history lesson seeing as you like to spread false propaganda given your hate for the Azeri race- the descendants of the Safavid Dynasty which control Persia, who introduced Zoroastrianism,whose name AZERBAIJAN comes from ancient (Media) "Atropatene."
The real persians are FARS, and make up a small population of Iran. Majority of Iran is composed of different ethnic backgrounds, from Kurds, Turkmen, Baluchis, Arabs, etc., WHILE AZERIS MAKE UPTO 30% of IRANIANS.
Whatever your background is, you need to stop spreading lies. And to the comment by "whitearyanhun" calling Azeri's, torkihars, look at yourself in the mirror HAYVAN!!!
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